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PR number: latex/2346
Synopsis: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig
Confidential: no
State: closed
Arrival date: Wed Dec 18 15:41:07 1996
william l kleb
Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:30:43 GMT
Description of bug: as documented in lamport's book, p. 198, concerning figure placement, "a figure will not be printed before an earlier figure, and a table will not be printed before an earlier table." however, there is a footnote stating, "However, in two-column page style, a single-column figure can come before an earlier double-column figure, and vice versa." this twocolumn behavior is undesireable---at least by me and most professional organizations i publish in. ed snyzter developed a hack fix for 2.09 several years ago which links the two counters, but i have not run across a similar "fix" for 2e... >Class: change-request ============================================================ End of LaTeX2e bug report. ============================================================ LaTeX2e bug report. Generated by latexbug.tex on 1996/12/18 Reports may be submitted by email to latex-bugs@uni-mainz.de Please use the subject line: Subject: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig ============================================================ *** Initex configuration files hyphen.cfg 1995/07/11 v3.5e Babel language switching mechanism ***
David Carlisle
Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:06:43 GMT
> this twocolumn behavior is undesireable---at least by me and > most professional organizations i publish in. I am sure it is not desired by anybody. However even if the mechanism for changing that is known (it may well be known by some members of the team, I haven't looked at that particular problem recently), it does not necessarily mean it should be changed in the kernel. Changing anything about the float placement algorithm is likely to make the floats come out in different places (perhaps even in documents that do not have floats out of order, it may be that a new algorithm would still use a slightly different arrangement). If a LaTeX update were to completely change all the page breaks in book you had just published, so you could never recreate the book from the sources without keeping an old LaTeX, you may not think the change so good:-) Having said that a *package* that did this would certainly be a good thing, whether in the base distribution or in the `contrib' directories. This could be like the flafter package, which similarly modifies the float algorithm. > ed snyzter developed a hack fix for 2.09 several years ago which > links the two counters, but i have not run across a similar "fix" for 2e... Sounds interesting, you could post the address here if it is on the public archives (or the code, if it is not too big). Although this does not constitute a promise to integrate this, only look at it... David If you reply please keep the Subject and CC fields the same as they are used by our database. From: william l kleb <kleb@ab00.larc.nasa.gov> To: David Carlisle <carlisle@ma.man.ac.uk> Subject: Re: latex/2346: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:17:55 -0500 David Carlisle wrote: > > a *package* that did this would certainly be a good thing agreed. > > ed snyzter developed a hack fix for 2.09 several years ago which > > links the two counters, but i have not run across a similar "fix" for 2e... > > Sounds interesting, you could post the address here if it is on the > public archives (or the code, if it is not too big). unfortunately i have not been able to reach ed (last known address: snyzter@babel.com), and his 2.09 code 'fixfloats.sty' begins with: % Modify the float handling mechanism so that double-column floats % stay in sequence with single-column floats of the same type. % Basically, merges the double and single defer lists into one, % and turns off bit 4 of the count to flag a double-column float. % % Copyright Ed Sznyter. Permission to use. Do not redistribute. % % based on LATEX VERSION 2.09 <18 March 1992> Copyright (C) 1992 by Leslie Lamport % --- bil kleb <mailto:w.l.kleb@larc.nasa.gov> From: David Carlisle <carlisle@ma.man.ac.uk> To: kleb@ab00.larc.nasa.gov Subject: Re: latex/2346: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:22:36 GMT There is something to be said in favour of freely re-distributable software, don't you think:-) David State-Changed-From-To: open-suspended State-Changed-By: carlisle State-Changed-When: Wed Feb 5 19:08:57 1997 State-Changed-Why: 2.09 code to fix this not available at present due to copyright. Problem itself is known, documented even. From: bil kleb <kleb@ab00.larc.nasa.gov> To: bugs@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de Subject: Re: latex/2346: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:14:01 -0400 David Carlisle wrote: > > Bil Kleb wrote: > > unfortunately i have not been able to reach ed > > If you do find him at any time you can always `fake' a reply > send it to bugs@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de with the subject as above > Re: latex/2346: etc i finally got ahold of ed and he granted permission to distribute his latex 2.09 fixfloats.sty, which i crudely modified to work with latex2e. thus i am proposing we re-activate latex/2346... ed's method of fixing the float sequencing is here: macros/latex/contrib/other/misc/fixfloats.sty but to be a real fix, his idea needs to be translated into latex2e-ize. -- bil <mailto:w.l.kleb@larc.nasa.gov> From: Frank Mittelbach <Frank.Mittelbach@Uni-Mainz.DE> To: bugs@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de Subject: Re: latex/2346: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:33:04 +0200 Chris could you look at this once you are back? frank From: Chris Rowley <C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk> To: bugs@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de Subject: Re: latex/2346: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:22:09 +0200 Frank Mittelbach wrote -- > Chris > > could you look at this once you are back? > frank Well, I looked at fixfloats.sty. This is certainly something that we (or even I) should have fixed when we redid floats for 2e. But do we want to fix the kernel now? Or just produce a package? chris From: Frank Mittelbach <Frank.Mittelbach@Uni-Mainz.DE> To: bugs@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de Subject: Re: latex/2346: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:12:27 +0200 > Well, I looked at fixfloats.sty. > > This is certainly something that we (or even I) should have fixed when > we redid floats for 2e. > > But do we want to fix the kernel now? Or just produce a package? if it is easy to fix and not changing anything on documents with only 1-col or only 2-col figures then i think we should fix it directly after the release and send out that fix on latexl as a package for testing but not for now From: David Carlisle <david@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk> To: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk Subject: Re: latex/2346: 2-col: 1-col fig can come before earlier 2-col fig Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:03:07 +0100 (BST) > But do we want to fix the kernel now? Or just produce a package? package, I think. Responsible-Changed-From-To: Team->chris Responsible-Changed-By: schoepf Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jun 9 17:55:30 1997 Responsible-Changed-Why: to produce a package State-Changed-From-To: suspended-closed State-Changed-By: schoepf State-Changed-When: Fri Sep 24 09:52:50 1999 State-Changed-Why: fix added to fixltx2e package to be released 99/12 >Unformatted: LaTeX2e bug report. 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